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before the heights of the air were lifted up, before the measures of the firmament were named, before Zion's footstool was established,
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before the present years were reckoned, before the imaginations of those who now sin were alienated, before those who stored up faith as a treasure were sealed—
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then I planned these things. As they were done by me and not by another, so also the end will come by me and not through another."
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I answered, "What separates the times? When is the end of the first and the beginning of that which follows?"
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He said to me: "From Abraham to Abraham, because Jacob and Esau were born from him, but Jacob's hand held Esau's heel from the outset.